My car wouldnt go today. The machanic came from the garage and said my timebelt had snapped and it needed a new engine. My cougar is mark 2 and is a w.5 v6 engine. I thought this car had a timing chain that is supossed to last a lifetime. Anyway i phoned him up and told him this so he said yes it had 2 chains hes confusing me so just wanted to know if anyone could help or givd me somd advise please.
Been told my cougar c2 needs new engine
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Im sorry to hear you've had some trouble mate. Does it try to start at all? I know it is not impossible for timing chains to stretch or break but its hardly common. Does the engine turn over?
I'm well known on here for not being too mechanically minded but lots of other members are!
I'm well known on here for not being too mechanically minded but lots of other members are!
Sorry to hear of your problems.
There are two chains; one for each pair of camshafts.
It's rare for the chains to cause problems but it's possible one of the chain tensioners or guides has failed.
There are two chains; one for each pair of camshafts.
It's rare for the chains to cause problems but it's possible one of the chain tensioners or guides has failed.
patmonkman said:
If he's being serious, he's either taking the mick, is cluless, or is understating the issue. You're right - a V6 cams are on chains.
I will say that cam chains, guides and the cam sprockets don't last forever depending on what you think "forever" is. But they are supposed to survive a good 250-300K miles and the rest of the car will need major attention before a well-maintained motor will.
But claiming that the cambelt has gone on a V6? Time for a new mechanic.
I guess a little confusion has slipped into the terminology, maybe was told cam chain but remembered cam belt as it's a more familiar phrase.
Is there an easy way our friend here can identify cam chain failure ?
One of the cams drives the tensioner and pulley for the water pump on the rh end of the engine, that turning would prove front chain OK, how about the rear bank ?
Is there an easy way our friend here can identify cam chain failure ?
One of the cams drives the tensioner and pulley for the water pump on the rh end of the engine, that turning would prove front chain OK, how about the rear bank ?
Raise front of car, put in gear and rotate drivers wheel, if cam chain has snapped then you will hear the chain rattling like mad
Another Genius idea from our mate Mr Procomm.
I guess if not snapped then you'll be trying to turn the engine over against compression on all 6 cylinders so might require a little effort.
Only if you raise one wheel.
Pat I take it your better half is Savannah on FB?
I'm Tony, who's been giving advice on there, as i've posted on FB get somebody who knows these engines to have a proper look, a few of us have had experiences whereby these engines sound like they have snapped a chain, ie zero compression, this isn't the case, they lose compression due to lack of oil pressure to the oil pump and hydraulic lifters, there are a few possibilities for this, but they need checking properly and eliminating one by one, before attempting to try a restart, we are talking possibly washed bores, oil pump failure, bearing failure or even just low oil level or a blocked oil filter, but someone needs to check these first before condemning your engine.
You have your location as Hoyland so i'm thinking you're an hour from Bolton, Nick at B&M Autos in Bolton, knows these inside out, might be worth that call www.bandmautosbolton.co.uk/contact
Pat I take it your better half is Savannah on FB?
I'm Tony, who's been giving advice on there, as i've posted on FB get somebody who knows these engines to have a proper look, a few of us have had experiences whereby these engines sound like they have snapped a chain, ie zero compression, this isn't the case, they lose compression due to lack of oil pressure to the oil pump and hydraulic lifters, there are a few possibilities for this, but they need checking properly and eliminating one by one, before attempting to try a restart, we are talking possibly washed bores, oil pump failure, bearing failure or even just low oil level or a blocked oil filter, but someone needs to check these first before condemning your engine.
You have your location as Hoyland so i'm thinking you're an hour from Bolton, Nick at B&M Autos in Bolton, knows these inside out, might be worth that call www.bandmautosbolton.co.uk/contact
It tries to turn over
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Hi Tony thats lovely to hear from you. Thankyou for all the information i will have a word with him i think i know where abkuts in bolton he his and thankyou xxx
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Is that bolton in lancashire
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Hi Tony thats lovely to hear from you. Thankyou for all the information i will have a word with him i think i know where abkuts in bolton he his and thankyou xxx
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Is that bolton in lancashire
Id say hes right you need a new engine. 2.5 liters are no where near big enough. Needs 3.0 at least and some VVT. [emoji16]
SERIOUSLY though, if it tries to turn over i would say its not fried. I had an engine that sat with the intake off to the point when we went back to look the lower intake manifold was full of water. A little marvel mystery oil, well alot and it cranked over and actual ran after putting everything back on it. If the rod isnt sticking out the side if the engine and its not seized to the point it wont turn, theyre pretty hard to kill.
Verify you have the 3 components to make it work. Fuel air and spark. If it still doesnt work. Verify youre getting enough of each.
SERIOUSLY though, if it tries to turn over i would say its not fried. I had an engine that sat with the intake off to the point when we went back to look the lower intake manifold was full of water. A little marvel mystery oil, well alot and it cranked over and actual ran after putting everything back on it. If the rod isnt sticking out the side if the engine and its not seized to the point it wont turn, theyre pretty hard to kill.
Verify you have the 3 components to make it work. Fuel air and spark. If it still doesnt work. Verify youre getting enough of each.