Cougar V6 cheaper than 2.0

I drove to from Oxfordshire to North Yorkshire and back the other day in a brand-spankers S-Max TDCi with an auto box. I can tell you with absolute certainty that it was a damn sight quicker than my V6 Cougar. (It also averaged 41MPG, despite being as aerodynamic as a house and being loaded up with three squaddies plus overnight luggage!)
 
Relliott6879 said:
I drove to from Oxfordshire to North Yorkshire and back the other day in a brand-spankers S-Max TDCi with an auto box. I can tell you with absolute certainty that it was a damn sight quicker than my V6 Cougar. (It also averaged 41MPG, despite being as aerodynamic as a house and being loaded up with three squaddies plus overnight luggage!)
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Everyone knows that DPM makes you faster...
 
So the concensus is get rid of £900 cougar and get a smax which will cost you £23,000 and you'll be quids in.
 
Modern cars are going to have the edge despite being heavier - especially turbo-Diesels - and it's true that you'd have to be patient and have a very careful foot on the throttle if you wanted to get a Zetec up to 130MPH, (I have experimental data on this and a witness, though I'm not about to incriminate myself) but it absolutely shines between 70 and 90 which is exactly where it's supposed to spend most of its life.

It was the right tool for the job. Might not be anymore.

But if I was worried about that, I wouldn't own one. ;)
 
Oops, sorry............... i thought i'd stumbled into a "Chav" forum, all this crap about traffic light GP's, 190mph V 130mph etc.

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! and welcome to the real world, where 90% of all road traffic never exceeds 75mph and the cougar is still one of the best looking cars doing it :).

Btw, i am in no way incriminating myself by saying out loud that i was toeing 125mph on the A1 Northbound with an unmarked audi trying to give me a push. I drive a zetec cougar and i'm not as young as some police officers expect to find in the driving seat :LOL::beer::cool:
 
Lol
The big problem is that although the V6 is bigger cc wise it's not that much heavier weight wise and has more torque than the zetec so has to work less to pull the cougars body weight along and hence use similar amounts of fuel. I remember getting an indicated 35mpg at an average 75mph on the M5 so how fast you go don't realy matter either (yeah it does take an age to increase the speed past 110mph though like Arkady states)
 
Mako said:
Modern cars are going to have the edge despite being heavier - especially turbo-Diesels - and it's true that you'd have to be patient and have a very careful foot on the throttle if you wanted to get a Zetec up to 130MPH, (I have experimental data on this and a witness, though I'm not about to incriminate myself) but it absolutely shines between 70 and 90 which is exactly where it's supposed to spend most of its life.

It was the right tool for the job. Might not be anymore.

But if I was worried about that, I wouldn't own one. ;)
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I think it still is as long as you know about and accept its limitations. It's just not a 'performance' car - never was and unless you spend a lot of money under the hood, never will be.
Aside from town-driving, most of my time in the car is on very long (10-15 hour) motorway drives - at 120-130kph (75-85mph -ish) which is what the regulated motorway stretches here are usually posted at, it's fine.
On the unrestricted roads, you're always going to get some turd in a Bee-Merc-Audi trying to get past you at 200mph while flashing his halogens like crazy, but I reason they have good brakes so they can afford to use them occasionally.

If you've not experienced it, it's scary the first few times - look in the rear-view: road clear. Pull out and there's someone right up your bumper flashing you to get out of the way. If you're travelling at 'normal' speeds, it's the equivalent of standing still while someone drives past you at 120mph. Unlike in the UK, German drivers can have their cars de-restricted by the dealer without recourse to having a race-license, so all those tasty RS4s, M3s, AMG-Mercs etc. will do 200mph. Unfortunately just because someone has the money to buy one, it doesn't mean they're capable of driving them properly - those nice cars are therefore usually in the hands of middle-aged idiots blatantly undeserving of them.
 
That sounds about right, seen a few guys over here who have the exotic car's but no knowledge how to drive them safely, they are usualy the ones doing 70mph in zero visibility fog on the motorway :rolleyes:
 
Ok well a bit of an update on this zetec v's V6 malarky fuel figures, I had to go north for work yesterday and needed to meet my lift at sparrows f@rt O'clock headed up the road at fair rate of knots and the OBC went to 18.2 mpg :( so even with a (pi$$ poor powered zetec to quote a post here somewhere) the mpg can be killed pretty easily at 110 on the motorway
 
Pid_16V said:
Get much over 65 in either of these and you can wave bye bye to fuel economy of any description.
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I dunno - as I said earlier my fuel-economy figures are based on very long motorway drives: 10-15 hours or so. On a run back to UK at a steady 70mph I would regularly achieve 37mpg in the old Cougar and I'm close to getting around 35mpg in the new one now that I've thrashed some of the accumulated clag out of the engine. Some better tyres would probably make up the difference...

I don't bother measuring 'town' driving as I suspect it would depress me too much - I know I seem to be filling-up every 25 minutes of so...
 
Interesting topic..

Like others have said its all about the style of driving where/when. Iv never had a V6 Cougar so i wouldnt know but iv a 2.0 zetec which has just creeped over 100k miles and i average easily 37-40mpg with mixed driving. Performance is luke warm. This time last year i had a celica vvti a little 1.8 which was the same age as my cougar and performance wise is better in every way than the big cat, it was sharp handling, had a fair amount of pop at the top end with a lovely engine note and i averaged about the same mpg.... but i prefer driving the cougar, which seems more of a cruiser, relaxed and looks better. Im not a huge ford fan either but i bought the cougar because i liked the looks, i like the way you jump in and feel part of the car and the performance is enough to keep me entertained. Not the fastest but by no means a slow car either. I use the Cougar as my daily driver and can not fault it in any way..

The question is what do you want from your car? unfortunately you cant have it all ways.. Is changing your car going to be worth the extra mpgs you will gain? unless you are getting an extra 10+ MPG and do a fair amount of miles then it really isnt worth changing IMO.
 
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