Even looked at getting a Mazda 6 mps,but i don't like turbo driven car's! And the cost of the part's
would kill me!
would kill me!
jaguar x type sport 3l vs audi tt 18t vs audi tt v6
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You're not wrong there. The last one I got the wife could have payed off my mortgage.Even looked at getting a Mazda 6 mps,but i don't like turbo driven car's! And the cost of the part's
What about the W8 now they are rare as rocking horse and unique (it's half the engine that's in the Veyron lol)
Interesting posts about 4 wheel drives. I have just reluctantly sold my 2005 3.0 x-type as I took an early retirement/ redundancy package. I agree that it was not the most exciting of drives but was quick enough for me and felt very solid on the road. I used to swap over to winter tyres from November to April which maintained its road holding capabilities throughout the year. My only advice if the OP is seriously thinking about getting an x-type is look at late 2004 /2005 registration models as the early vehicles had issues with the transfer boxes and more recently there has been discoveries of terminal rust around the lower A-frames due to a design fault that prevents rocker mouldings to drain effectively. A modification to cure this problem was introduced along with other improvements in 2005MY (Aug 2004). A good website for further info is jag lovers.com
Thankyou for your very helpful information Jamie.To me then it look's like the xtype would make a better car for me! big 3.0 lazy engine and the comfort and toy's! I've had cougar's for 5 year's now! very reliable and i love the lazy gear change's! with all the torque! Which for me make's a very relaxing drive!Not really wanting a exciting drive,would like reliability the comfort and the toy's! But just wanted the help a 4 wheel drive car would give me in the snow! To you then Jamie do's this sound like the right car for the job? Many thank's
To be honest the 3.0 is not an engine I could describe as lazy. It's only a larger bore than the 2.5 and although Jaguar improved the engine a lot from the Ford basis, it's still not overly endowed with low-mid-range torque. It doesn't really pull any better than a V6 Cougar at low revs. It'll blow a Cougar in to the weeds if you wind it up to it's redline. It's got the power - but it's not a lazy delivery. The automatic is more Jaguarish than the manual - I've had both. The manual can be driven surprisingly fast on twisty roads.
Cougarbrg is correct about the updates to the transfer boxes in 2004. Mine was a late 2005 and still failed though - after they fixed the problem. High spec post 2004 models got DSC in place of the viscous coupling centre diff.
Being a nose heavy car with a rear-bias torque split, the post 2004 cars pretty much just spin their rear wheels like a RWD car. The DSC is crap. Having said that, the RWD car I'm comparing it to is the S-Type which is superb in the snow (and I'm awesome) compared to most BMWs, and the X-Type is vastly improved with winter tyres, but even without, a judicious nip of the hand brake will restrain rear wheelspin and force some drive to the fronts.
That's perhaps an overly bleak picture of the X-Type - it's is pretty good in the snow. It's no Land Rover Defender, but I've never been stuck either. There are lots of nice accessories for them too on Adamesh and some other places.
Hi Guy's hope everyone is ok! just a little update! gone of the idea of the x type 3.0 sport! just fell in love with the sex appeal of the old shape xk8
hope everyone is ok! just a little update! gone of the idea of the x type 3.0 sport! just fell in love with the sex appeal of the old shape xk8Be careful with early XK8s as they had engines with Nikasil coated cylinder bores and some failed. (You may have already heard of this story as BMW had the same issues). Jaguar replaced some of these engines under warranty back in the late 90's although there are some of these engines still out there. I think Jaguar put steel bore linings in the V8 engines from April 2000 onwards as a solution although I could be wrong on the date. Also, the early V8 engines had issues with timing chain tensioners and water pumps. All of which can be fixed with later design level parts but something to watch out for when looking at service history. Happy hunting.
The Nikasil used to be an issue maybe a decade ago but it's a red herring these days. Any that were going to fail will have been made in to pots and pans long ago.
4.0 engines are prone to timing chain tensioner wear though. Consider it a service item, albeit one that isn't actually in the service schedule. Replacements with those from the 4.2 engine is what's done. Needs special tools, so you either need a good Jag Indy or JEC membership to hire the tools. Replacement costs about a grand to have a garage do, so look for it in advert. Anyone who's selling and has looked after the car properly will make a point of mentioning this.
Beyond that, shell corrosion (footwells and rear wheel arches in particular) and lots and lots of rubber bushes.
Lovely cars though, and have a much, much better "feel good" factor than X-Types. Different horses for different courses though. They feel a lot smaller to drive than they look on the outside. They are the furthest thing from an X-Type in a coupe body. They also drive nothing like S-Types or XJs for that matter.
4.0 engines are prone to timing chain tensioner wear though. Consider it a service item, albeit one that isn't actually in the service schedule. Replacements with those from the 4.2 engine is what's done. Needs special tools, so you either need a good Jag Indy or JEC membership to hire the tools. Replacement costs about a grand to have a garage do, so look for it in advert. Anyone who's selling and has looked after the car properly will make a point of mentioning this.
Beyond that, shell corrosion (footwells and rear wheel arches in particular) and lots and lots of rubber bushes.
Lovely cars though, and have a much, much better "feel good" factor than X-Types. Different horses for different courses though. They feel a lot smaller to drive than they look on the outside. They are the furthest thing from an X-Type in a coupe body. They also drive nothing like S-Types or XJs for that matter.
Hi, Thankyou for your great reply's! Just think the car look's Beautiful! I Know it would give me a great buzz from driving and owning a car like that! Just thinking about it get's my heart racing! Not felt like that for a long time!
What to do this winter?
Hi Guy's. While saving up for the xk8. i was going to put some winter tyres on the cougar! I travel 30 miles a day round trip to work, for the co-op warehouse. which is really a 24/hour/7 day's a week kind of job, don't want to let them down by not being able to get in! what with the snow! cos it's good payed etc. Then i started to think! what if i bought a 2002 suburu gx sport, put winter tyres on it,ran it for 6 month's of the year,and just ran the xk8 in the summer month's! what do you Guy's think?
Hi Guy's. While saving up for the xk8. i was going to put some winter tyres on the cougar! I travel 30 miles a day round trip to work, for the co-op warehouse. which is really a 24/hour/7 day's a week kind of job, don't want to let them down by not being able to get in! what with the snow! cos it's good payed etc. Then i started to think!
what if i bought a 2002 suburu gx sport, put winter tyres on it,ran it for 6 month's of the year,and just ran the xk8 in the summer month's! what do you Guy's think?
I think your first idea was better. Unless you're pretty well off, you're going to be looking at a fairly ropey/tired Scooby and a below-par XK, both of which you will inevitably end up ploughing money into, either just to keep them roadworthy or to improve their condition.
Decent winter tyres for the Cougar will set you back, what, £400-£500? A Scooby+winter tyres+upkeep will cost you a great deal more. Better to get the winter tyres for the Coug and put that extra money into getting the best XK that your means permit.
Decent winter tyres for the Cougar will set you back, what, £400-£500? A Scooby+winter tyres+upkeep will cost you a great deal more. Better to get the winter tyres for the Coug and put that extra money into getting the best XK that your means permit.
Thankyou for your reply! Seen some hilfy winter tyres £100 for the pair fitted, wouldn't what they would be like?
£100 for the pair fitted? 'Ditchfinders' is the first word that springs to mind!
Get yourself a price for Nokian Wintracs. They are new kids on the block but over the past few years have demonstrated in numerous tests that they really do work in winter. Much cheaper than the premium brands, but they are really good.
I agree 100% with Rich by the way. The only acceptable reason to run more than one car is because you want more than one car. There is no financial case for doing so. By the time all running costs are considered, you'd be cheaper running one V8 Range Rover than 2 'sensible' cars.
Subarus in particular, like most Japanese cars have parts prices that will make your future XK look cheap to maintain.
I agree 100% with Rich by the way. The only acceptable reason to run more than one car is because you want more than one car. There is no financial case for doing so. By the time all running costs are considered, you'd be cheaper running one V8 Range Rover than 2 'sensible' cars.
Subarus in particular, like most Japanese cars have parts prices that will make your future XK look cheap to maintain.
Ideally yes. You'll need driving wheels as a minimum or there's no point, but personally I wouldn't want the other 2 wheels skating about. No point in not getting stuck if the back end swings out and gets belted by a lorry!