Racebits rolling road day vids and pics

It lifts the wheel in fifth at three figures effortlessly lol it gets a wobble on too even with a steering damper good fun though.

JJ
 
So, what was everyones final BHP figures after the rolling road - remap day?? Sorry I missed it, vid's and pic's look good. Looking forward to seeing RichB's pic's.
 
Right, I have uploaded them all to photobucket, these are all the final runs for each car, sorry to PaulP for the short & out of focus video, I haven't used the video on the dslr before and hadn't focussed it properly.

PaulP's car




Alan's car




My Car




Burgers car




Ginja's car




Lcrowds car

 
Right, here are the few stills that I took, not many, we went to a pub for a bite to eat afterwards, a very enjoyable day.


First up is Paul P's car
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My Car
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Zach's car (Lcrowd)
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Matt (Ginja) entrusting his pride and joy to Hi Tec.
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Mine's smaller than yours
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People and cars
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A happy (and relieved) Zach takes his car off the rollers
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As one burger disappears, 2 more appear!!!:)
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Al with a nice full belly after the Scampi & chips
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The strangerers!!:)
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I'll have to watch the vid's once I'm at home as at work at the mo :-(

So, come on, whose got the biggest bhp figures? Anyone disappointed with the outcome????
 
WildV6 said:
I'll have to watch the vid's once I'm at home as at work at the mo :-(

So, come on, whose got the biggest bhp figures? Anyone disappointed with the outcome????
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O.K. Tim, have trawled through the posts to get the BHP figures, can't comment on the torque figures but most people felt their engines pulled better and some of has improved economy even though our right toes were still getting up close and personal with the footwell carpet. The figures quoted are bhp at the wheels;

Alan 135
Burger28 186
Ginja 159
Lcrowd 174
Paulp 182
Richb 187
 
Richb said:
O.K. Tim, have trawled through the posts to get the BHP figures, can't comment on the torque figures but most people felt their engines pulled better and some of has improved economy even though our right toes were still getting up close and personal with the footwell carpet. The figures quoted are bhp at the wheels;

Alan 135
Burger28 186
Ginja 159
Lcrowd 174
Paulp 182
Richb 187
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Ok, thanks Rich. Quite surprised by some of the figures, especially Matts...159bhp...Matt you've lost some horses somewhere, you forget to bolt the door??? lol The other figures I pretty much thought that is where they may have been. One day I'll get mine on a rolling road day....when I'm not bleeding working...as I am today!!!! lol Thought Al's 4 pot would be slightly higher though, as thought the 2 ltr jobs were around 140bhp standard???
 
The ford figures are (I am told) flywheel figures whereas ours are at the wheels so Ging is about 15 or so up and Al is about 21 or so up after the conversion is done.
 
You sure that's right Rich? About figures being from the wheels I mean. I saw on the videos the wind-downs adding on the delta to arrive at a calculated flywheel figure.

I'd just be slightly surprised at so many 200+ bhp cars there and only yours having any serious modifications, that's all :)
 
jamie_duff said:
You sure that's right Rich? About figures being from the wheels I mean. I saw on the videos the wind-downs adding on the delta to arrive at a calculated flywheel figure.

I'd just be slightly surprised at so many 200+ bhp cars there and only yours having any serious modifications, that's all :)
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Likewise but that's what we are told, as a fellow sceptic, I am surprised that you never commented on the other thread, it'd be more believable that mine's 187bhp at the flywheel, I am sure that it's not 219bhp.
 
TBH Rich I hadn't noticed all the chat on the other thread until now. I'll maintain my position - these must be flywheel figures, or the rolling road is waaaay out of calibration. I'm not going to go wee on anyones' chips on the other thread because I'm always seen as being negative and I think people may be a little giddy with their enourmous numbers which are in a different ballpark to standard figures. I can't remember the (new) standard figures for the V6 manual, but I do recall that a new V6 auto only measured 138bhp at the wheels.

Put it this way though - your car has a very similar engine to the X-Types, which in 3.0 form hoof out 231bhp at the flywheel but have AWD and weigh more, yet do 0-60 in 6.6 seconds. What were your Santapod times? You should be well into the sub-7 second bracket if it's genuinely producing 219bhp. Just look online at performance figures for similar weighted cars with that sort of power. The Audi TTS weighs 1500kg and does 0-60 in 5.9 seconds.

The rolling road IS calculating flywheel BHP. The graph goes up in one colour til the rev limiter, then on run down another colour is added above - that extra colour is the difference between road wheel horsepower and flywheel horsepower. I wasn't there so I don't know what you were all told, but I'm fairly certain there's been a misunderstanding somewhere, and the final figures handed over are the flywheel figures.
 
As i remember it, i was told my reading of 135 was at the road wheels. I would be pretty peed if that was the flywheel figure. Regardless of the figures though, my car is definately doing a hell of a lot more than a standard un modded zetec. There seems to be so much confusion over "figures" here that i'm almost putting them out of my mind and concentrating on what the remap did for my torque in reality, nevermind what it said on the paper. A once and for all confirmation of readings taken from Shaun might be a good thing.
 
Being honest the figures all looked a bit high for at the wheels and maybe slightly low for at the fly. I always take Rolling road figures with a pinch of salt, Been on them all over the country and always some discrepancy in them. Thats why a before a after figure on the Rollers is a good way to calculate the gain percentage. But as a better and more accurate conversion I'd knock 10 BHP off for the @ wheel figure then do the calc for @ the fly

Out my 3 cars my FTO is the slowest, but it oblierates my ST due to the performance in the middle ( V6 revs to over 8K :) )

Tio quote BHP figures is all pub talk and means nothing in real world terms. Its how the car performs on the road and if you know its gained and is smoother thats what counts. Glad to see some MPG gains too.
 
Well the chap said (think his names MICK) that mine pulled very well through the revs, just tails off at the top, as this is usualy the area of the rev range were power figures are quoted at I can understand mine being low, I didn't have a dyagnostic so my torque readings weren't available (well not for me anyway) but i've read before that torque is usualy at its peek in the lower midrange of the revs so i'd agree that torque figures (albeit very confusing to the man on the street) are were its at if you want to play Top-Trumps ;)
I only have the Mij exhaust as a mod so if my power output is now (using seans new equations) only about 10 bhp up on standard then thats about right. (y)
 
Have a look at my maps Matt, before and after. You can see whats been done to the torque, and that is what is noticable in the car on the road. Now if somebody asks me what the BHP is on my car, i'd just say, i have no idea, but it pulls like a train! There is a distinctive pulling power increase which is very noticable right along the rev range. (y)
Btw, "torque" is the term i understand, as basically its the force or power given/taken.
 
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