Remaping done increase in mpg and faster
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Incidentally, I do agree with Shaggy that in certain cases, the same engine is hamstrung to be in a lower insurance group.
Both the 1.4 and 1.6 Rover K-Series used in the MkIII 200/400 were throttled for lower performance by a) using a restricted cable or b) using a throttle body with a pin in it that stopped the butterfly from opening fully. This absolutely lowered the liability and premium and Rover themselves sold it as such, (though it's also true that they lasted longer like this and would put up with crappier fuel, since the K doesn't have a knock sensor!).
It was easily overcome with a rasp and/or a new cable, but the insurance guys read the same forums that we do, so it's imperative that you let them know what you've done.
Both the 1.4 and 1.6 Rover K-Series used in the MkIII 200/400 were throttled for lower performance by a) using a restricted cable or b) using a throttle body with a pin in it that stopped the butterfly from opening fully. This absolutely lowered the liability and premium and Rover themselves sold it as such, (though it's also true that they lasted longer like this and would put up with crappier fuel, since the K doesn't have a knock sensor!).
It was easily overcome with a rasp and/or a new cable, but the insurance guys read the same forums that we do, so it's imperative that you let them know what you've done.
You're assuming they're on the same scale though.
We use RON (Research Octane Number) as the index, the United States uses AKI (Anti Knock Index.)
Converting between units shows that the US fuel is slightly lower in anti-knock properties than European fuel, but not anywhere near the margin that comparing the numbers directly suggests.
Our "Standard" 95 RON unleaded is near-as-damn-it 90-91 AKI - so the anti knock properties of the fuel are near identical. People judge the numbers and assume American fuel is "crap" but it's very, very nearly the same stuff we get from our pumps here!
As the indexes also measure slightly different factors however, it's difficult to draw a direct correlation.
So, those who assume the octane number of American fuel is lower, and thus "lower" than our fuel need to read the small print on the labels on the pumps!
Regards,
Andy
Except most of what you can buy over there is 82-85 AKI and much of it in any metropolitan area like Miami (HINT-HINT) is RFG. Most of it also contains up to 10% ethanol without any warning on the pump since the EPA only mandates labeling on pumps that are delivering E15.
They really only get away with this because they pay about half what we do in the UK. They're being squeezed on crappy fuel as far as their market will bear.
Getting back to the OP.
If you get 35mpg instead of 27 thats a saving of 30% on fuel. On a basis of 5000 miles a year thats a saving of £270 a year.
If so that remap really pays off. Are you still seeing 35 or has it dropped at all ?
I'm assuming you have a V6.
Can they recommend anyone in the midlands to do the same service ??
If you get 35mpg instead of 27 thats a saving of 30% on fuel. On a basis of 5000 miles a year thats a saving of £270 a year.
If so that remap really pays off. Are you still seeing 35 or has it dropped at all ?
I'm assuming you have a V6.
Can they recommend anyone in the midlands to do the same service ??
if your only getting 27mpg I would suggest your imrc may have a fault early to mid 30's is where the v6 should be sat as standard
i used to get 30's when i first got it but i had the flickering lights when that mod was done my mpg dropped slightley and then i modded it and dropped further. i never thought any thing of it as my first v6 cat only got 27mpg.
it also comes down to driving style and how fast you go
it also comes down to driving style and how fast you go
Getting back to the OP.
If you get 35mpg instead of 27 thats a saving of 30% on fuel. On a basis of 5000 miles a year thats a saving of £270 a year.
If so that remap really pays off. Are you still seeing 35 or has it dropped at all ?
I'm assuming you have a V6.
Can they recommend anyone in the midlands to do the same service ??
What is your post code? I will have a search through some of the other Quantum dealers to find the closest to you
Thanks for the excellent feedback Andrew, glad to have assisted you in your quest for more power and to bring all your modifications together!
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B78 - near Tamworth. Cheers - although I get about 32mpg anyway, if I got that up to 35 it would take me about 3 years for fuel payback, but that's not the whole story of course if it drives much better too . . .What is your post code? I will have a search through some of the other Quantum dealers to find the closest to you
Yeah that's the list of all the dealers for Quantum.
kittylover, your closest dealer is The Lion Garage in Tamworth 01827 55550
Thanks for this. I'm certainly going to remap mine, I only get 23 on a good day. No idea what motorway driving is, ill find out when I travel to Manchester next week. I was consider these guys for their location but perhaps ill take a drive up there (after i get my induction kit and exhaust on 1st)
Just don't be drawn in by the sales pitch. The v6 cougar engine is not the easiest to tune. It has to be a bespoke data logged affair, not a generic file.
Also, be mindful that 23 mpg is poor, suggesting something else (possibly very minor) is amiss. A remap does not guarantee better MPG, but in conjunction with an engine with a clean bill of health you should see improvements.
A good service is important, checking your sensors and leads etc.
Also, be mindful that 23 mpg is poor, suggesting something else (possibly very minor) is amiss. A remap does not guarantee better MPG, but in conjunction with an engine with a clean bill of health you should see improvements.
A good service is important, checking your sensors and leads etc.
I get the same about town - 27mpg, but best I've seen on a long motorway run is 32mpgMine is hovering around 27MPG around town but that's with the 4x4 system, on a long run around 36MPG (plus I haven't exactly got a light foot!)
I'd like to second what Scunny says. It should be obvious, but I'm sure there's people out there who took their neglected cars to reputable places, and who now tell everyone that a blueprinted map was a con because their shed didn't get the gains they expected.
Service it first!
Service it first!