What Have You Done to Your Cougar Today?
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...and definitely NOT good if you have different sized tyres fitted to front and back ( as I found out )...
I'm surprised at the way this works:- turning off three cylinders, but that explains why it wasn't implemented on the Zetec
At least on the Thunderbird SC the manual had it in the rear axle, whilst the auto box electronics simulated it within.
I'm surprised at the way this works:- turning off three cylinders, but that explains why it wasn't implemented on the Zetec
At least on the Thunderbird SC the manual had it in the rear axle, whilst the auto box electronics simulated it within.
I wish I could find the source where I originally read it - might have been on TalkFord. But yes, all it does is detect slippage through differing wheel rotation (hence foobar's comment, I'm guessing) and then it... chops the power.
It's not so much a driver aide as it is a slap on your wrist.
Incidentally, I'm not sure whether it would be impossible to implement on a Zetec. I think all it does it looks at the cam position sensor and chops power to the coils when they would be due to fire on 1, 2 & 3. I guess it depends on what the Zetec's coilpack is like, whether it's wasted spark, etc.
The 6 is probably still quite smooth on 3; dread to think what an I4 would be like on 2, or ambiguously in my previous post, 1 cylinder.
Probably "DAGGA-DAGGA-Hpmpf-STALL"
It's not required on the zetec, the owners are too skilled.
Look you...
It's not required on the zetec, the owners are too skilled.
Not powerful enough*
This is quite an interesting topic. I had always assumed that when traction control cut in, that the power was reduced by the ECU / PCM cutting down on the angle of the fuel injection pulses. That 'idea' came from my van, a Mercedes Vito. It has a 'SpeedTronic' speed limiter, which I find to be way more useful than the cruise control, because you set the max speed and it just keeps you legal up to that. You keep your foot well down ( where else ? ) and when you reach the set speed, it just feels like somebody has put the brakes on. The speed here is maintained by varying the fuel. I assume the cruise control works in a similar way.
Now it gets more complicated than this on the Cougar, because ( correct me if I'm wrong ) the only way it can detect wheel slippage, is via the ABS sensors / reluctor rings. But surely they feed into the ABS system, which is a separate subsystem. ABS is activated directly by those wheel sensors, the ECU / PCM does not get a look in. So how does this information from the ABS subsystem get fed to the ECU / PCM to operate the traction control ? Either way, by cutting the ignition or cutting fuel ?
This must get even more complex on a 4 x 4 vehicle, such as the Mondeo 4 x 4 parts that are used to mod the Cougar. I am assured that the ECU plays no part in this, so I assume slippage of the rears is ignored ?
Blank day today so rather than just sleep
As for the puddle light! not sorted, the SMLED is ok and wire feed to it through the door. I need to track the wiring back now for the break in the circuit. My fingers froze today so i'll be back inside the car tomorrow with the heater on.
SORTED!
Simple fix, broken wire, re-cut, new soldered/sheathed join and alls well again.
Today I touched and gave my cat a kiss. It's been nine long weeks since I had seen her and I've been the equivalent of right around the world, plus driven a further 4,000 miles. Just to move her back to normal parking position ( I used her to box my trailer in so it didn't get nicked ), I started her up, no funny noises, a quick and healthy start. I look forward to driving her over the Christmas period. I've also been in touch with the guy I'm buying the Mondeo Mk 1 4 x 4 gear from. A bit worried he might have just sold it and forgotten about me. But no, he was happy to hear I was back and I'm collecting it all on Tuesday in my van. ( Just got to empty the van first ! ) It's a tad cold, but I'm glad to be back...
Totally on-board with this.
You can't really hug a car, even though she has always looked after you, been faithful, and done everything you ever asked of her. Because like, that would be weird.
But Mako was amazing in the snow that came down as we drove back from the John Radcliffe stroke unit. Oxford to MK in the worst conditions you can imagine, which got worse as we headed home. Mako looked into her bag of f*cks, found it empty, and did her level best on her Rainsports to get home.
She got there long after the RAC guys put their tyre socks on.
You can't really hug a car, even though she has always looked after you, been faithful, and done everything you ever asked of her. Because like, that would be weird.
But Mako was amazing in the snow that came down as we drove back from the John Radcliffe stroke unit. Oxford to MK in the worst conditions you can imagine, which got worse as we headed home. Mako looked into her bag of f*cks, found it empty, and did her level best on her Rainsports to get home.
She got there long after the RAC guys put their tyre socks on.
Convinced my brother to go for a set to replace the worn-out cheapos on his Type R Civic, even he noticed the difference
Finally got around to tidying up the welds on the plate I added to the drivers sill 2 weeks ago. Cracked open my ancient tin of underseal and finger smudged some into the welds to seal them and make them look a little better. Treated a few other bits with anti corrosion, it'll get some blue hammerite in due course.
Also fitted one of the rear mudflaps purchased from one of our fellow cougar ites here on the forum. Added loads of clear silicon to stop reduce water seaping into the joins between the mudflap and the arch liner.
Also fitted one of the rear mudflaps purchased from one of our fellow cougar ites here on the forum. Added loads of clear silicon to stop reduce water seaping into the joins between the mudflap and the arch liner.
To jump in with the TC baiting, I was under the impression that mid_late 90s Fords used brake traction control. A system Ford were very excited about as it is damned good, and one of the main reasons quick Ford's brake straight even with issues.
My understanding is that it uses the ABS pump to take power away from a driven wheel. Which is why you hear the spanging gurgling noise if you happen to go for a rip start leap into a junction (turning right on a crossroad when the gap is very short, for instance - when the wheel rotation is very different due to the amount of lock)
Any time I wanted to turn sharply, and get it there quickly, I switch TC off as it otherwise gobbles the power like my sister on cake.
Switching a bank off would lead to a very lumpy engine, and that's not the effect I have from the TC in mine. The car lurches and then behaves as if I just stamped on the brakes.
Any time I want to get away quickly, especially with a sharp turn to make, TC off.
Same in the SType, and the same system - which is also used to effect an LSD-ish on the rear. It's an open diff with Ford's TC (same icon, too!) which is used to apply the brakes to the spinning wheel and afford it enough resistance that power can go to the second wheel. Basically doesn't work on ice/snow/mud etc so through the snow, TC off and under way without much slippage - open diff, RWD is my game in the snow. Spent 10 years in a 2.8 Capri with that setup.
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My understanding is that it uses the ABS pump to take power away from a driven wheel. Which is why you hear the spanging gurgling noise if you happen to go for a rip start leap into a junction (turning right on a crossroad when the gap is very short, for instance - when the wheel rotation is very different due to the amount of lock)
Any time I wanted to turn sharply, and get it there quickly, I switch TC off as it otherwise gobbles the power like my sister on cake.
Switching a bank off would lead to a very lumpy engine, and that's not the effect I have from the TC in mine. The car lurches and then behaves as if I just stamped on the brakes.
Any time I want to get away quickly, especially with a sharp turn to make, TC off.
Same in the SType, and the same system - which is also used to effect an LSD-ish on the rear. It's an open diff with Ford's TC (same icon, too!) which is used to apply the brakes to the spinning wheel and afford it enough resistance that power can go to the second wheel. Basically doesn't work on ice/snow/mud etc so through the snow, TC off and under way without much slippage - open diff, RWD is my game in the snow. Spent 10 years in a 2.8 Capri with that setup.
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To back this up, the V6's ABS pump has TCS printed in big letters on the sticker.
Had a nice run out today down to Badminton, probably 60% motorway at 75mph with the rest on B-roads and lanes, driven in a spirited fashion
36mpg
Just an absolute joy to drive, so much fun
36mpg
Just an absolute joy to drive, so much fun
Had a nice run out today down to Badminton, probably 60% motorway at 75mph with the rest on B-roads and lanes, driven in a spirited fashion
36mpg
Just an absolute joy to drive, so much fun
Great to see you today Matt, and to hear you enthusing about your new car.