Because they used to be Autocraft SVE, who have demonstrated a consistent ability to absolutely ruin any engine they touch. Ford Duratec V6, TVR AJP8 or Speed Six. You name it, they've f***ed one.
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Because they used to be Autocraft SVE, who have demonstrated a consistent ability to absolutely ruin any engine they touch. Ford Duratec V6, TVR AJP8 or Speed Six. You name it, they've f***ed one.
It could just be I'm unsure of rear wheel drive cars as I've not driven any and most proper performance cars are rear wheel drive. I have no reason to believe that they won't be a lot more expensive to run, I'd have to be stupid otherwise lol it's just how far do you go before it becomes silly, I ploughed loads into running the cougar but that's also because I was trying to get it to perform aswell as a proper performance car would out of the box so to speak, in hindsight I could have just saved some money I guess and bought the performance car instead.
I dunno what to do now
After driving standard cars and having a standard Passat diesal previously , the v6 is a performance car! It is all relative I suppose , like Jamie touched upon , you get used to having performance then want more and more , and unless you are racing on tracks , what's the point? I seldom get the chance to squeeze the trigger in my cougar , never mind a out and out on the road race car.
You probably end up dead , or someone else dead or many points or ban eventually?
You probably end up dead , or someone else dead or many points or ban eventually?
It could just be I'm unsure of rear wheel drive cars as I've not driven any and most proper performance cars are rear wheel drive. I have no reason to believe that they won't be a lot more expensive to run, I'd have to be stupid otherwise lol it's just how far do you go before it becomes silly, I ploughed loads into running the cougar but that's also because I was trying to get it to perform aswell as a proper performance car would out of the box so to speak, in hindsight I could have just saved some money I guess and bought the performance car instead.
I dunno what to do now
Digressing a little I suppose, but drive layout is something fairly subjective actually and completely different driving styles are needed for each. From 23 years of driving FWD cars you may not like RWD as the whole ethos is different. FWD isn't good at putting power down but it's more stable under power. With FWD you tend to carry more speed in to corners then scrub/understeer it off and exit slower than you started. With RWD you have to slow down first, turn in under neutral power then start feeding power back in. The rear end total grip improves as you add power but this is offset by increasing lateral G. The car will settle in to a poise where you back off the steering input a smidge and can adjust your line with throttle. It's very rewarding to get it right, and depending on grip levels, you can feel like a driving god without going at mental speeds. This is very much the reason behind the hype of MX-5s, for example or indeed the GT86.
RWD and FWD are like guitars and a recorder. It takes more basic aptitude and more practise to master the basics of a guitar, whereas anyone can blow out a tune on a recorder. There's also much more depth to the experience though if you wish to learn it.
Perhaps i should thow in one from left field and just say if you want real power to weight ratio and stupified grin inducing performance....
Buy a big fast motorbike
Which will render most so called performance cars redundant unless you can afford a Zonder or its ilke
Buy a big fast motorbike
Which will render most so called performance cars redundant unless you can afford a Zonder or its ilke
Lmao , you just know them bike riders were gutted!
Ok, Mr Smarty pants, that GTR must be running "BIG" power we're talking 600BHP+ coz' neither of those bikes could be called mediocre; i had a GSXR1000 until last year and saw 172 on the clock without even trying on a private road you understand...
Well isle of man actually during TT in 2012, so to be totally annilalated by that GTR is certainly something
Got to admit I would love that particular one , must be a rush to be able to leave top end sport bikes for pretty much dead , no wonder Clarkson has never felt take off like a gtr , they have some sort of launch feature , correct?
Hold the revs down and the cars computer gets you away as quickly as possible , probably invented for the mad japs and their crazy road racing they do.
Awesome clip that , think I'll save it to my favourites ;-)
I've always wondered what the point of launch control really was other than to improve Santa Pod times or indeed just to improve the appeal of the 0-62 figure in the sales brochure. Lots of modern performance cars have it, and personally I think it's the one thing you'll pretty much never use.
You'd look like a prized bell end doing that away from traffic lights and there aren't very many traffic lights with a clear run up to a high speed limit on the other side. You can't even use it on track days because you pretty much always start from the pit lane.
You'd look like a prized bell end doing that away from traffic lights and there aren't very many traffic lights with a clear run up to a high speed limit on the other side. You can't even use it on track days because you pretty much always start from the pit lane.
Like I said it was *probably* purely designed for the mad street racing japs , or maybe one of the designers got left behind by a sports bike one day and thought.. It's ok Mr , me get you back!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXkcuKwo2g0
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Not to mention the fact that under certain circumstances, (switching off the VDC), using launch control will violate your warranty. And also might leave bits of your gearbox on the tarmac.
There's a bit more to it than that - you can read about it here (<--link) - but that's the long and the short of it.
There's a bit more to it than that - you can read about it here (<--link) - but that's the long and the short of it.
Actually i think launch control was just put on cars so top gear have somthing to a**e about with
You wana watch the McLaren MP4-12C with it's launch control, it will practically waste any car off the line, Clarksons even beat a GTR in the last video I watched, but then again an MP4-12C does have over 600 hp
Just to back track, yes those bikers were gutted!
Honestly the most "humble" Japanese/Italian 600 is going to leave the majority of fours wheeled things behind. I doubt there are many on here who've owned cars that'll get away from a boggo GSXR or CBR600.
With RWD and FWD I've owned many of both, currently I own one of each too. I've owned some fantastic FWD cars that offer more than plenty of driver rewards (a penchant in my youth for tricked out 306s that'd happily lift-off-oversteer around corners with a bit of practice) and some not so pleasant RWD cars, drive an old 316 and try and find some fun factor!
They're all very different; but I wouldn't say one is any better or more rewarding than the other.... Be a long time before I own anything as sheer "fun" as my ancient MX5 with an LSD though!
.... Even a misspent youth tearing around on a derestricted NSR125 proved its possible to shift from most things until about 60mph! - Even if a 'Traffic Light Grand Prix" would cost a spark plug, and a tank of fuel.
Honestly the most "humble" Japanese/Italian 600 is going to leave the majority of fours wheeled things behind. I doubt there are many on here who've owned cars that'll get away from a boggo GSXR or CBR600.
With RWD and FWD I've owned many of both, currently I own one of each too. I've owned some fantastic FWD cars that offer more than plenty of driver rewards (a penchant in my youth for tricked out 306s that'd happily lift-off-oversteer around corners with a bit of practice) and some not so pleasant RWD cars, drive an old 316 and try and find some fun factor!
They're all very different; but I wouldn't say one is any better or more rewarding than the other.... Be a long time before I own anything as sheer "fun" as my ancient MX5 with an LSD though!
.... Even a misspent youth tearing around on a derestricted NSR125 proved its possible to shift from most things until about 60mph! - Even if a 'Traffic Light Grand Prix" would cost a spark plug, and a tank of fuel.
I do wonder how 'useful' a really powerful FWD Cougar would be though. It's still a big, heavy FWD car. Not saying it wouldn't work, but I think a compromise could be reached relatively quickly.so to sum up my question dont! go for big power from a cougar lol
Definitely needs a brake-upgrade before one is breathed on, heavens the brakes leave plenty to be desired!