Will the Cougar ever be worth anything?

I was just feeling a little disillusioned with it all last night tbh, if the car is gonna sit there its just till it can be sold (tax runs out end of Feb and insurance March) and I can't afford to maintain it. A drop in price is the best option. Log book for firsta came today so thats another nail in the cars coffin


I agree with Si here Matt..............
Sell the seats and headlights off for a start with the option of a swap your way for C1 units. That way you get the money for the rare parts and you can still sell the car on without most people on ebay even knowing that the C2 has different parts to the C1.
 
I also agree with the general thought about the car being totally standard to be a future classic. I have said it before, if I had the space I would buy a good standard one and store it for the future. The looks you would get in say 30 years from now driving one down the road would be great. Most people have no idea what it is today, nevermind in the future.
 
I also agree with the general thought about the car being totally standard to be a future classic. I have said it before, if I had the space I would buy a good standard one and store it for the future.

I agree with you in principle, but I also think there's something sad about a car not doing the job it was designed for.

But that's just me. As much as I look after cars I own, I'd prefer restoration to sterile preservation.


The looks you would get in say 30 years from now driving one down the road would be great. Most people have no idea what it is today, nevermind in the future.

Especially since they'll be wondering where you got the petrol from, and where you got the government license to burn it.
 
In all honesty they will be in the future the way they are now which is a bargain basement car it will never attract a premium IMO regardless of its modification state or condition, fab cars for the money I paid 7k for my first and thought it was worth every penny but we all know we are a minority owner and it will never be a "classic" car it will just be an old well kept car to others.


JJ
 
I agree with you in principle, but I also think there's something sad about a car not doing the job it was designed for.

But that's just me. As much as I look after cars I own, I'd prefer restoration to sterile preservation.




Especially since they'll be wondering where you got the petrol from, and where you got the government license to burn it.

There will be petrol in 30 years from now. They really have not come up with another method to power a car that does not require several huge powerstations to produce the electricity to power these so called future cars.
 
There will be petrol in 30 years from now. They really have not come up with another method to power a car that does not require several huge powerstations to produce the electricity to power these so called future cars.


Hydrogen fuel cell cars?? give them a couple more years and i am pretty sure this will take over the idea of electric cars...(y) the fuel cells are getting better and better all the time..
 
In the past thirty years we've gone from pushrod ohv engines running on leaded fuel, through ohc 16v engines and multi valve technology to common rail diesel engines and hybrids, I'm certain in the next 30 years we will see cars powered by more efficient and viable electrical means (batteries are getting smaller and more powerfull) or smaller turbo charged eco-boost engines capable of 60+mpg on petrol, either that or we all need to start learning to ride pedal cycles and horses again lol
 
Manufacturers seem to be buying into electric technology big time, and some towns and cities are also switching onto the idea, Milton Keynes has had free parking places and charging points for electric cars for a while now.

it would seem the electric motor is the way forward for the short term at least
 
In the past thirty years we've gone from pushrod ohv engines running on leaded fuel, through ohc 16v engines and multi valve technology to common rail diesel engines and hybrids, I'm certain in the next 30 years we will see cars powered by more efficient and viable electrical means (batteries are getting smaller and more powerfull) or smaller turbo charged eco-boost engines capable of 60+mpg on petrol, either that or we all need to start learning to ride pedal cycles and horses again lol


Matt to be honest not only have you got the bumper scrape but you've also got that battle damaged rear wing from the other car you scraped trying to get out of a carpark. It wasn't mentioned in the ad I read and it shows in your photos which may be putting people off. I thought you lacked space to store cars? Or rather your folks lacked the will to give you space to store your cars.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and all that, so my recommendation would be to stick it on Ebay with a reserve of £500 and take whatever you get for it.
Anyway, to quote your timescale above for technology advancement - the timescales for piston engined development are around 3 times the timescales you've mentioned. Multi-valve engines appeared in the 1920s. I'm not sure who put the first twin-cam car engine into production, but the old Jag XK engine certainly had it and that was in the C-Type racing in the early 1950s. Leanburn technologies were first pioneered in the 1960s and early 70s. Forced induction was first tried in the 1920s and has been standard practise for pretty much everything except cars since the 1960s - trucks, plant, generation, diesel-electric trains etc etc.

The point is that all of this stuff that has apparently been recently "invented" in cars has taken literally decades to refine and make it work properly.

Hydrogen fuel cells look the most promising of the current technologies. Battery power I just can't see to be honest unless something drastic changes with the way people live their lives - i.e. they stop travelling or it becomes normal to own a fleet of cars (unlikely). Battery technology aside, the simple fact is that it takes a long time to fill a battery with electricity, and although people are ferretting away trying to make batteries which will accept a faster charge without exploding, the power supply you need to plug into the car yields voltages that would require transformers the size of a large garden shed per car or currents that could turn Ben Nevis into lava in about 3.9 seconds. It's just totally impracticable. That, and the fact that the battery technology requires large quantities of relatively precious metals and have a very short life before they're knackered (degredation is inherent from the very act of charging and discharging them).

Nuclear is out too, because the shielding required from the radiation is either a few feet thick of lead, or lighter layered protection which requires tens of meters of separation of humans from the reactor. You could end up with Batmobile shaped cars with the driver at the front and the reactor at the back, and perhaps Audi drivers would stop tailgating then, but you'd also need to keep non-motorists a long way from the road too so you'd never be able to use one in town.


Probably the easiest fix, is just to bottle hydrogen from more efficient electrolysis stations, fill your car at a filling station like you do know with the stuff, and just burn it in a piston engine - possibly the same piston engines we've already got. They're fairly simple, need hardly any maintenance and will burn hydrogen quite happily without much change to the technology.
 
That would be a great idea.

I would love to do it. I wanted to do it witht he car from the top gear test when that become available as that car has got some history and I think it will be the one to have for a future classic and it was standard as well and in quite good condition still. Oneday maybe...............
 
I would concider finding a place for it to sit over the winter/spring till the show scene starts up again,

In my opinion, that would be a bad idea Matt. Firstly you won't be benefitting financially from it - which was one of the main points for replacing it.

Secondly, cars of this vintage do not like to be left idle for any length of time - brakes rust up and need overhauling, rubber perishes (wishbones, arb bushes etc), things seize up and you'll end up needing to spend more money just to get it back on the road. I agree with Jamie on this - it's best to grit your teeth and take whatever you can get for it. Sadly these days only the most pristine of Cougars will command over a grand and that's if you're lucky enough to find someone who is willing to splash the cash when less pristine ones are out there for sock drawer money. :(
 
Nuclear is out too, because the shielding required from the radiation is either a few feet thick of lead, or lighter layered protection which requires tens of meters of separation of humans from the reactor. You could end up with Batmobile shaped cars with the driver at the front and the reactor at the back, and perhaps Audi drivers would stop tailgating then, but you'd also need to keep non-motorists a long way from the road too so you'd never be able to use one in town.

Sounds like someone has heard of the Ford Nucleon...
 
I hadn't actually Chris, but that was very interesting. The US Air Force did spend a fortune around the same time trting to develop a nuclear powered jet bomber. The idea was basically to have a jet engine but rather than add kerosene at burn it, the compressed air would be routed either straight through the reactor core or through a heat exchanger. Either way, the reactor provides the heat for the expansion of the gas and this provided the propulsion. It weighed heaps though, produced poor power and needed so much reactor shielding that the plane probably wouldn't get off the ground. The basic idea was that the bomber wouldn't be range limited. Nobody had really put in to air to air refuelling. Eventually someone realised that AAR sorted the aeroplane range issue, and that submarines were better at delivering nuclear weapons, so the concept became pointless.
 
I was thinking that'd be the RB-36, but the only thing that bomber ever did is prove that you could, in fact, put an operating N-plant on a plane if you were crazy enough. It never provided power or propulsion, just sat there in the tail being an accident waiting to happen.

The lunacy thankfully ended with Project Pluto, which if it had ever been fielded would probably have lead to the end of the world.

And now I'm so far off-topic that it's not even funny. No, the Cougar will probably never be worth anything other than the intrinsic value it has to those of us who love it.